Question:
Double Play from First base?
Jordon
2009-03-14 17:24:15 UTC
So I'm playing first base in HS on the freshman team. I don't want this situation to arise and not know what to do. So heres the scenario, you're playing first base, there is a runner on 1st base and 2nd base. You get a groundball hit to you (first base) and you have 1 out. Do you throw to third base to get the lead runner and the sure out, or do you throw to second to try and get the double play. Keep in mind that this is HS ball, not professional so a double play isn't guaranteed like it usually is in the majors. Any help?
Thirteen answers:
Davey Mars
2009-03-14 17:42:32 UTC
It's kind of positional - depends on your location, the strength of your arm and the jump of the runners. If the runner gets a good jump, it's not so sure you'll beat him to 3rd and the long throw to 3rd is the road to disaster if your throw is off - that's a run scored with 2nd and 3rd loaded, definitely the *wrong* way to make the school paper. The "easy" out is probably first base and your coach is probably going to agree. Then again you'd rather have runners on 1st and 3rd instead of 2nd and 3rd.



The classic play (and usually the right one) is you flip it to 2nd and duck down so he goes to first where, hopefully, your pitcher is waiting. This way, even if you miss the double, you're in roughly the same position as you started and still have the force at 2nd
Ryan R
2009-03-15 00:20:57 UTC
As a longtime high school umpire, I'm going to tell you it would be extremely foolish to throw to third. If you're consistently accurate enough to get the ball over there, you're good enough to get it to second to start a double play. Too many times have I seen balls thrown out of play from first to third. Now you have one run in, a runner on third, and a runner on second, with nobody out on the play.



Even if you don't turn the double play by throwing to second, you'll have the force out there for the second out of the inning and a force play in effect at second for the third out of the inning.



And if you can't throw to second for the force there to start a double play? Well, if you can't make a good throw there, what makes you think you can make a better throw across the diamond?



If you field the batted ball within a step of first, tag the bag and then throw to second. Be sure to let the teammate covering second know he must tag the runner.



If you have to take more than a step to reach first, throw to second and get your fanny over to first for the return throw. If you're too far off first when you field the batted ball, your pitcher should be running over to take the return throw to first. The pitcher's covering first to receive a return throw on a double play is something your coach will most likely go over in regular practices, not tryouts.



When throwing to second, throw to the bag. Don't try to throw to the second baseman's or shortstop's glove. If they do their job right, they'll catch the ball. If not and your throw is to the bag, you did all you could do. Don't try to hit a moving target.
metalicious7
2009-03-14 18:32:07 UTC
Throw the guy out at second usually. this way there's only 1 runner in scoring position and the double play possibility. Even if the runner on first steals second there's 2 outs so your catcher can gun him down if he thinks he can.The throw to third is risky if you make a bad throw or don't throw him out the bases are loaded with 1 out and if you make a bad throw that runner might score.
stilwell
2016-11-30 02:42:25 UTC
As a former 2nd baseman and shortstop, I comprehend how risky making the pivot at 2nd may well be. yet to me, a rule is a rule. To rigidity a guy, you lots touch the backside. there is no could desire to alter the guideline to allow the "interior the community" play. the main to me could be to easily tell the umpires till now the commencing up of the season that they are predicted to call the play as written interior the guideline e book, and to additionally ensure that each and each team is conscious that that rule would be strictly enforced. initially, gamers could have slightly hassle changing the way they play, yet rule changes happen each and all the time. And it is not even a metamorphosis, that's purely making particular the guideline is enforced. definite, probable the calls finally end up "evening out" ultimately, yet that still may be the case in case you performed it strictly via the guideline e book. in case you will take a glance at changing a rule, perhaps there could desire to be (as Luke shows) a metamorphosis interior the guidelines related to what a runner can do to take a participant out in that subject. the belief now that as long as a guy can attain the backside relatively provides the runner a pair of seven or 8 foot area to the two ingredient of the bag to slip in. i think of that probable reasons greater injuries then imposing the guideline of touching the bag ever could. the different challenge I relatively have with the "interior the community" call is "what precisely is the community?" A foot from the bag, 2 feet, 5 feet?
anonymous
2009-03-14 17:40:30 UTC
it really depends where near first base you go too...

if its closer to 1st tag the base and then throw to 2nd for the tag if you have the play... if its to far for u too run and tag base throw to 2nd for one out and they should throw it back for the double play.

if you go to three you most likely wont make the play because the runner is already advancing and your closer to 1st anyways.
anonymous
2009-03-14 17:36:55 UTC
throw to second and get that out than make the second baseman to throw to you and thats 2 outs or if the batter runs fast sure out at 1st allways im 12 and play ball like a 12 yr proffesionam
Twig_04
2009-03-14 17:33:04 UTC
go for 2. Depends on what side the grounder is on and how close you are to the bag. Ball hit to your left you are going towards the bag, step on it and throw to 2nd for the tag out. Ball hit to your right throw to 2nd for the force and go back to the bag to receive the throw (unless 2b is covering)
supermahnn
2009-03-14 17:35:26 UTC
Hey, wuts up dood. Im right there with you. next year ima be a freshman.

um...i would definitley roll it up the middle(turn two) because even if you dont turn it, ur almost definitley going to get one out, and then theres 2 outs, and the infield just need to keep the ball infront and get the one out.



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Mike C
2009-03-14 17:29:25 UTC
if the ball is hit closer to second, it is easier to throw to second and get the force and your 2nd baseman should be covering first for you. If its hit closer to the bag it is easier for you to step on first then throw to second and have the runner tagged.
worriedwart
2009-03-14 17:48:06 UTC
the easier way to do is throw to second base and back to first.



or what schmidty said. there a doulbe plays...
orlando s
2009-03-14 17:43:50 UTC
hey if that ball is grounded to you,doesnt mean u cant be sure just because its a feshman game.step your foot on first and you throw that ball to 3rd as fast as u can.
anonymous
2009-03-14 17:27:21 UTC
How about you touch first, then gun it to second and get the tag out?
anonymous
2009-03-14 18:28:38 UTC
actually shmidty is right you dumb ****


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