Question:
with two runners occupying third base...?
Mark
2012-05-03 11:46:28 UTC
the runner from second base got there first but only by inches... the base belongs to him and the other should be out when tagged... however, the defensive player tagged the wrong runner and the umpire not paying attention, let the play stand and the wrong runner left the field... can the offensive coach appeal a wrong call / application of the rules and bring his runner back on the field... and if so, into which position, second base or third base...
Seven answers:
Jackie O
2012-05-04 06:08:04 UTC
itry04, your answer is incorrect. When two runners occupy the same base, the lead runner is entitled to the base as he is the one who has "legally acquired" the base. The followin runner cannot legally acquire a base that is already occupied. Therefore, the following runner is out upon bein tagged. Should he return to second base prior to being tagged, he is safe also.

7.03

(a) Two runners may not occupy a base, but if, while the ball is alive, two runners are

touching a base, the following runner shall be out when tagged and the preceding

runner is entitled to the base, unless Rule 7.03(b) applies.

(b) If a runner is forced to advance by reason of the batter becoming a runner and

two runners are touching a base to which the following runner is forced, the

following runner is entitled to the base and the preceding runner shall be out

when tagged or when a fielder possesses the ball and touches the base to which

such preceding runner is forced.
anonymous
2012-05-03 11:55:33 UTC
It doesn't matter who got there first.



If the runners were forced to advance because the batter just hit the ball and the bases were full behind them, then the runner who started at the base is no longer safe by standing on the base regardless of whether the runner behind him has reached the base or not.



If there's no force play in effect, then the lead runner gets the base and the following runner is not safe by touching the base.



If the umpire called the wrong runner out, there really isn't an appeal process for this. The coach can ask the umpire to check with other umpires and clarify the ruling. If the umpire realizes and admits his mistake been made the umpire might allow the runners to change places so the correct one is on the base.



Some leagues allow coaches to file a formal appeal if they think there was a misinterpretation of a rule, but the appeal has to be filed with the scorekeeper before another play is made.
Eric L
2012-05-03 11:56:34 UTC
This isn't really a question, but I'll attack it anyways. With two runners occupying the same base, the lead runner is allowed to stay on the base but the previous runner has to leave. If the wrong runner left the base path, then the umpire would rule him out. If the umpire did not realize this, he would have the opportunity to consult with the other umpires. It is not a reviewable play. The runner would be left on the base that he was standing on.
?
2016-12-02 00:38:51 UTC
particular, the backside runner is out. On an uncaught third strike 3 with first base open with below 2 outs, or with 2 outs the batter-runner could pass to first. From an umpire instruction manual, "Any runner (which incorporate the batter-runner) is out whilst (2) he's compelled out. A tension out can take place whilst there's a consecutive runner and a honest, uncaught batted ball (or a 2-out, stay, and uncaught third strike)." EDIT: From a similar instruction manual. The batter-runner is out for desertion if he leaves the dirt circle surrounding living house plate And if he would not leave the circle, yet would not attempt to boost in a life like time or supply an illustration he knows of the prospect, he's out for desertion. EDIT2: As for the argument that if the batter-runner would not run, there is not any tension. If the catcher threw spectacular away, there is not any risk to barren region...he did no longer ought to run right now. So this is a tension-out at third.
itry04
2012-05-03 13:20:23 UTC
Short and Sweet. You are misinterpreting the rules. Where two runners occupy a base, regardless of who got where when, a defender can tag either of the two and the one tagged is out and must leave the field. This is so because two runners cannot occupy one base and are seen as being in the same position (not in front or behind the other). Therefore it is proper to tag either runner and he will be out.
Jerry
2012-05-03 11:52:06 UTC
The first base runner to Third Base (that was called Out by mistake) should return to Third Base and the other base runner should be called out. Since only one runner is still on base and only one out called, it does not matter who is on base for the scoring opportunity, but it does matter to the stats of the both base runners.
John J. S
2012-05-03 11:51:54 UTC
Is this sand lot ball or what? 2 runners can't occupy the base. doesn't matter which you still have one runner on third base whan all the dust settles and one runner out. The one on third belongs on third regardless of who got there first. the player on second can't legally advance to third until the runner on third crosses home plate.


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