Who was a better player Barry Bonds or Ke Griffey Jr? Please no passon, let's focus on the facts and the stats.?

Question

In my opinion Barry Binds was way better player WHY? Because of a these reasons..

Barry Bonds hit 762 HRs(all time leader) 1996 RBI(all time 3rd) 2558 BB(all time leader) 2227 scored runs(all time 3rd) 444 OBP(all time 5th ) 607 SLG (all time 5th) 1.051 OPS (all time 4th)
601 doubles(all time 14th) 513 SB (all time 33rd) 14 times All stars 7 times MVP (most ever) 12 times SILVER SLUGGER 8 GOLD GLOVES 2 times AVG leader, 10 times OBP leader, 7 times SLG leader 9 times OPS leader 12 times WALKS LEADER.

Ken Griffey jr hit 630 HRs (all time 6th) 1836 RBI (all time 15th) 1312 BB (all time 41st) 1662 scores runs(all time 32nd) 370 OBP (all time 173dr) 538 SLG (all time 33rd) 907 OPS (all time 49th) 524 doubles (all time 42nd) 184 SB (all time ) 12 times all stars 1 MVP 7 times SILVER SLUGGER 10 GOLD GLOVES and only 1 time SLG leader .. So if we see here, we'll realize that Griffey jr has 2 gold gloves more than Bonds and that is it.

I like to have debates but about the facts not about passion or what player I like the most, so it's obvous that Bonds out numbers Griffey jr on everything except on gold gloves but only 2 behind... I know that some of you will bring the steroids up, however I wanna ask those these questions.. Did Bonds ever test possitive for steroids use? NO.. How do we know that Griffey didn't use it? How do we know that Bonds use it? How do we know that back in the days players didn't use it? Like it or not Bonds is the best player in MLB history..

Answer 1

Barry Bonds was clearly always a better player than Ken Griffey - there are maybe two or three seasons where Griffey was the better player, and Bonds was always close (except for 2005).



Ken Griffey Jr. was a great player, but during their respective primes (1990-2000, roughly), Bonds was hitting for just as much power, getting on base much more often, stealing more bases more efficiently, and playing just as excellent defense (albeit at a less important position).



I don't care a whit about steroids.

Answer 2

Bonds was a 5 tool player. He is considered on of the best 5 tool players right behind Willie Mays. I would still go for Griffey on the fact he never did steroids. If he would have done them his stats would have been up there with Barry's. He would have been hurt less too. Roids don't make you have great hand eye cordination like they both had, they just make you able to play at a high level longer because it will slow down how fast your muscles break down with age. If Bonds would have never been caught he would be considered one of the best to ever play. I still think he is one of the best, but Mays was better.

Answer 3

Even though I'm a huge Griffey guy and hate Bonds the stats don't lie, Barry was a better player. If only Jr. didn't become hampered by injuries, maybe things would be different.

Answer 4

Bonds, all the way. Would probably still be the case without PEDs.



While it's a composite stat, WAR is actually reasonably useful for this.



Bonds - 164+

Griffey - 77+



Bonds was a far more valuable player than Griffey. Bonds was way better on offense, and he and Griffey were actually fairly close on defense.

Answer 5

This argument will likely depend on your opinion of steroids.



Looking at the numbers, it's hard to deny Bonds as better than Griffey. But, when you consider that it's very, very likely Bonds was using steroids, that might change your opinion.



In addition, Griffey was a better fielder.

Answer 6

Bonds. He was, even before the steroids, a Hall of Fame player. He was better than Griffey without the steroids.

Answer 7

Griffey was a complete player -- we're seeing this same argument now regarding Miguel Cabrera and Mike Trout -- while Bonds (thanks to steroids) had better numbers at the plate.

Overall, Griffey was better because he could do much more than Bonds and because he offensive production wasn't enhanced by chemicals.

Answer 8

Bonds was a 3 tool player

Griffey was a 5 tool player

The reason the stat live favorited bonds is because Griffey was injured often. Also bonds was on steroids.

Answer 9

Barry Bonds was better



Bonds:

.298/.444/.607, 1.051 OPS, 173 wRC+, 164.0 WAR, 20.3% BB, 12.2% K



Griffey Jr:

.284/.370/.538 .908 OPS, 131 wRC+, 77.3 WAR, 11.6% BB, 15.7% K

Answer 10

Ken Griffey Jr. because he was a good player unlike Barry Bonds who was taking steroids while in high school. With out them, he would of been a good San Francisco Giant bat boy. Which should have been his real claim to fame.