Jimmy Rollins vs. Jose Reyes?

Question

ok. here are the stats:
Jimmy Rollins
Runs:115
Hits: 170
2B: 33
3B: 15
HR: 24
RBI: 74
TB:305
OBP: .343
SB% 84.4
SLG: .525
AVG: 293
SB: 27
FPCT: .985
Assist: 396
E: 9
double plays: 87

Jose Reyes:
Runs: 100
H: 165
2B: 28
3B: 11
HR: 9
RBI: 48
TB: 242
SB: 72
OBP: .369
SLG: .433
AVG: .295
SB%:80.9
FPCT: .985
Assist: 365
E:8
Double plays: 77

these stats as of Aug 31 show that either Jimmy Rollins is underrated or Jose Reyes is overrated

please say why one is better over the other, and if Jimmy is underrated or Jose reyes overrated

Answer 1

Well, I hate to say it, but Jose Reyes IS overrated, and Jimmy Rollins is underrated.

Jose Reyes is probably overrated, simply due to the fact that he's on a more popular team. (Same thing goes with David Wright)

Jimmy Rollins is underrated because guys like Jose Reyes take all the shortstop thunder in the NL. Jimmy Rollins is more durable and far more consistent.

If I owned a team, I'd prefer to have a guy like Jimmy Rollins, rather than a guy like Jose Reyes.



(I'm not a Reyes hater, I just think he's overrated)

Answer 2

Jimmy Rollins has better numbers but you have to factor in that Jose Reyes is only 23 yrs old. Jose Reyes is going to put up ridiculous numbers in a couple of years when he matures and becomes more patient at the plate. Reyes also is a better fielder and has a cannon for a arm. Plus he is a five tool player he can change the game on the bases as well on the field. We should be comparing Jose Reyes and Hanley Ramirez instead of Jimmy Rollins. Hanley is also a young athletic shortstop that put up numbers. Jimmy who? is the question you should be asking.

Answer 3

I'm not going to answer that Reyes is overrated because he is a darn good player. However, the last few years Rollins has definitely stepped up into a leadership role on the Phils, and definitely gotten much better. I'd have to say Rollins is the preferred player because of this, however I won't even try to disrespect Reyes's value at all. Rollins unfortunately was never a true star player until recently, and even now he is over shadowed by the likes of Howard and Utley in the Phils offense. Rollins will always be underrated because of this, but I think hitting in front of Utley and Howard is his ideal position. And looking at games this season, Rollins has played a huge part in the Phillies success.

Answer 4

I'll start by saying that Hanley Ramirez will be better than both of them within the next two seasons if he isn't already. However, between Reyes and Rollins, you have to take Rollins. He went from a Reyes-type player to an absolute offensive force. He plays gold glove defense and he's a team leader. Plus, he has harnessed the power that Reyes is supposed to have. Reyes will get to about 20 HR's a season in the future, but right now his game is small ball.

Answer 5

I think this year Rollins is far better than Reyes but I think what Reyes is doing at a younger age is why he gets a lot of publicity (that and playing for an NY team). Rollins does play in a hitter's park too but there is no denying Rollins is better this year.



That being said, I agree w\ the previous post that Hanley Ramirez will be the best out of all 3 of these guys down the road (very shortly down the road). Also, Ramirez is only 23.



Look at his comparable stats this year (and playing for the Marlins no less--only Uggla & Cabrera around him):



Hanley Ramirez

Runs:102

Hits: 174

2B: 38

3B: 6

HR: 23

RBI: 65

TB:293

OBP: .388

SB% 77.8

SLG: .557

AVG: 331

SB: 42

FPCT: .959

Assist: 306

E: 21

double plays: 79



So Rollins is definitely a better fielder but the offensive stats are pretty even w\ Ramirez hitting almost 40 pts higher, OBP & SLG better.



Either way, all 3 are great

Answer 6

I don't think either one is the case. I just believe that Reyes gets more attention because he's putting up these numbers at a younger age compared to Rollins. A more fitting comparison would be to examine Reyes' numbers at age 24 vs. what Rollins did at the same age. If you do that, you'll see that Reyes is miles ahead and has more potential than does Rollins to get better. Rollins is in his prime years, while Reyes still has a few years of development.



Also, your defensive statistics are a little misleading. They may have the same fielding percentage, but Reyes' zone rating is the second-best among all shortstops, while Rollins is 14th on that list. Rollins does well when he gets the ball, but Reyes simply covers way more ground.

Answer 7

In a case like this it would really depend on the needs of my team.



Rollins's power numbers has come from him seeing and getting better pitches to hit because of Chase Utley batting behind him. Prior to Utley, Rolllins was hitting 12 hr's a season and that has doubled over the past few seasons.



Reyes's steals is the only thing that really makes this an issue as to whom is better between the two. And even with 45 more steals than Rollins, Reyes has score less runs than Rollins has.



I will have to say Rollins is the better player as of today based on the fact that his numbers are better than Reyes's across the board on average.

Answer 8

Numbers only get you so far, Rollins is having a great year but Reyes has a larger up-side potential and will be the better player over the next ten years. In addition, Reyes has a stronger arm, covers more ground, and is a better all-around defensive player than Rollins. Read the response of Craig S. above, that tells it all.

Answer 9

Jose Reyes

Answer 10

The biggest thing that Jose Reyes does is get himself in scoring position by stealing 2nd and sometimes 3rd and he has a great FPCT and very few errors



but statistically Jimmy Rollins is a better player

Answer 11

alright, Jose Reyes is the most overrated, obnoxious player and Jimmy Rollins deserves if not more attention, a gold glove

im a phillies fan so obviously i hate the mets, but my answer is not only based on that

i just hate jose reyes' "im the best" attitude

Answer 12

your stats are very misleading it's certainly not Reyes' fault that he has scored fewer runs when Philly has the more productive lineup. There is only one hitting stat that matters when comparing the two and that is OBP. Reyes is higher and I think that is coming off a 2/15 vs. Philly. A .343 OBP for a leadoff hitter is nothing to brag about. Reyes is the better shortstop too, not even close

Answer 13

Since most of the statistical / geographic issues have been addressed already, there are two intangibles that Rollins possesses. The first is leadership. Jimmy is not a rah-rah guy, but through the force of his personality and his example as a pro, he is a true team leader. Also, Jimmy is cool under pressure; he produces when its on the line.

Answer 14

BOTH!!!! Jose Reyes can't do anything but steal a base, its the NY spotlight that makes him the "best baseball player" you'll ever see. Jimmy Rollins on the other hand, is your NL MVP.. He'll go 30/30, and close to .300 with 100 rbi!! Definately underrated

Answer 15

Jose Reyes is better than Rollins, thats just my opinion. Reyes is a better defensive shortstop and a with his amount of stolen bases, I'd take him.



No disrespect to Rollins, who is also a great player. I would just pick Reyes.

Answer 16

the numbers dont lie jimmy is better now and maybe for anothe 2 or three years he has finally started to hit for average and use his speed in all parts of the game like jeter does , he may end up with over 30 Hr 20 3b 30sb 40 2b 130 runs 200 hits 100 rbi and 300 total bases and lead his team to a playoff berth plus he is great on defense



and did you see him show up in the 4 game sweep of the mets, what was reyes 2 for 16 i dont want to call reyes overrated but he is not as well rounded as jimmy yet



JIMMY MVP JIMMY MVP JIMMY MVP

Answer 17

first of all....you did"nt mention their ages.

Reyes is still a young pup,still growing and learning the game.

Reyes is the better defender,he has more range and stronger arm.

Reyes has a better obp....which is important when your the lead-off hitter.

speed....no contest....Reyes hands down.



Rollins is having a MVP type year...no doubt.

but don't forget he plays in a hitter ball park too.



bottom line is i think Rollins is having a better year,but i would not trade Reyes for him due to his upside,wait until Reyes is in his prime.he is the most electrifying player in the game.

Answer 18

Jimmy Rollins in underrated. He is one of the most valuable players in the league, probably the best leadoff man, and a great person to build your fantasy or mlb team around.

Answer 19

Jimmy Rollins is definitely underrated compared to Reyes.



However, 5-10 years down the road, Hanley Ramirez is going to be better than both of him. If anyone, he gets the least amount of recognition.

Answer 20

Stats dont lie. I would have said Reyes, but Rollins stats are better.

Answer 21

Rollins is better all around.

Reyes just gets all the publicity b/c he plays in NY.

Answer 22

Wow, bases on those stats Jose Reyes is overrated and Rollins is UNERRATED by 100 miles.



I would pick Rollins anyday over Reyes.

Answer 23

I think Jose Reyes is a good player, ........i do agree that jimmy is underrated........he is a staple in the phillies team....i think jimmy is better if you ask me

Answer 24

Both are very fast players and quality fielders. I think Rollins is a better hitter, he has good power for his speed.

Answer 25

jose is overrated because he plays for a new york team. jimmy is the best SS in baseball. philadelphia never gets any credit for anything

Answer 26

Reyes is still the best and will continue to be the best....

Answer 27

jimy rollins kill him even know he's underrated as you say.

Answer 28

Jose is overrated.