Question:
If you were a Red Sox fan, would you accept an appology from Yankee fans after last night?
Blackhawks 2010 Stanley Cup Cham
2008-07-16 14:30:42 UTC
Yankee fans last night were obviously unable to bury the hatchet for 1 single game. They booed every Red Sox player to step on the field even though the Red Sox and Yankee players were both sitting in the home teams dugout. They obviously cared more about getting under their own teams skin then actually winning the game. I understand these teams are rivals in the worst way, but for 1 game they are TEAMMATES.

As a Red Sox fan would you ever accept an apology from a Yankee fan for the amount of disrespect they showed last night?
39 answers:
bondman
2008-07-16 15:36:12 UTC
The Red Sox are the team's rival, of course they're going to get booed. An apology? Are you kidding? Nobody deserves an apology. The fans paid hundreds of dollars for the tickets to see the all star game in their hometown ballpark, they can chant whatever they want as long as it's not completely out of hand.



Papelbon made an *** of himself in front of the whole media and the whole country. His comments were completely out of hand and he's running his mouth without thinking. He is a jerk and deserves to get booed for the out of hand things he said, especially since he indirectly insulted Mariano Rivera, who not only is the greatest closer of all time, but having a BETTER SEASON than him!



Varitek did not deserve to be at the all star game either. Statistically he is the worst catcher offensively in all of major league baseball and is slightly above average defensively at best.



Terry Francona and JD Drew on the other hand handeled themselves well. They did what had to be done and in a classy way. The Yankees fans were cheering Drew when he hit a HR and Francona's moves to classily get Yankees players ovations.



What you need to do, is grow up. The same would have happened anywhere for any fans of any rival team. The Cubs would have booed the White Sox, the Phillies the Mets, etc. The Yankees/Red Sox rival is bigger than any of these, stop making a deal out of it.



What you should be complaining more about is the way the Red Sox fans dumped beer on Sheffield.... or the way they heckled David Wells about his mother when she was sick... oh wait, did you say anything about that? I wouldn't expect any less hypocrisy from Red Sox fans. Nobody "apologized" for those, which were way more out of hand and offensive gestures, so why should they apologize for booing a bonafide jerk in Papelbon who couldn't even pitch the 8th inning scoreless when he thinks he should close?
2016-04-11 02:42:12 UTC
No. Sorry. But, no. You're talking about the greatest rivalry in the history of sports (that still exists, now that the NY Giants vs. Brooklyn Dodgers was killed, then lessened, by their moves West). Beginning nearly 100 years ago (and more, because of the geo. rivalry and commerce/competition between 2 major shipping ports to/from Europe).. It really began with they way New England felt about the British and vice versa. It's about immigrants in both places, and how they were accepted (or not), and then, the sports took hold of that competitiveness... continuining through the domination by the Red Sox, until their owner sells Babe Ruth and changes the history of both franchises. I've been in and throughout New England for 20 years now.. I've talked to old & young and seen a generation of fans developed & cemented in New England vs. anything New York: the Jets, the Mets, the Knicks, and Yankees. There's an unusual YOUNGER BROTHER psychosis up there, but yet, at the same time.. it's a twisted, weird SUPERIORITY COMPLEX (that just isn't spoken of, unless they're together without any outsider within earshot!). It's based in race & wealth vs. what they regard as NYC's urban refelctions.. it's the strangest thing, when you get down into it.. and it's much, much more than baseball or sports.. it's sociology and deep-seeded 'benign hatred'... that shows itself only in living rooms & bars under extreme pressure & release, should their team overcome. On the Yankees side, in this generation.. there's a demand for the best in the team -- and that's enough. The best effort from the best players, the best that the GM can do.. to bring those players, and a manager that doesn't choke -- which is why Joe Torre was recognized MORE for his losing, than his winning -- once his strategic bumblings were seen, year after year without a Don Zimmer around to guide/steer from the bench. Only a Yankees fan would know and recognize this.. which I am.
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2008-07-16 17:37:50 UTC
I am a Red Sox fan and I don't want an apology. It wouldn't do any good. Intelligent fans that know what happened was a bit out of line are the same fans that would never do that in the first place. I don't want people to apologize for something they didn't do. I understand that idiots can be found in every fanbase. I don't like it when people stereotype Red Sox fans so I won't stereotype Yankee fans. I know there are many intelligent Yankee fans out there. Unfortunately most of them didn't have tickets to the Allstar game.
Craig
2008-07-16 18:14:57 UTC
It was a little much but thats part of the game. I don't think that an appology is needed from Yankee fans for that. But the thing with Papelbons wife is inexcusable, but I know that this is not a fair representation of all Yankee fans too. But Papelbon's quote in the Post was way way out of context. He called Rivera "the Godfather of closers" which really doesn't sound like an insult to me, but that quote also wasn't in the Post column for some reason. I would urge you to read the entire interview before making your mind up.
answerguy
2008-07-16 15:54:48 UTC
Red Sox fans do not need to worry about that because it's not going to happen.



Yankee fans should not have to apologize for giving Papelbum the Bronx cheer. He deserved every boo he got. Here's his exact quote:



"If I was managing the team, I would close," Papelbon said Monday.



While it is not right to threaten his wife he must also take into account that that is probably going to happen and should have had her not be in the public spotlight last night.



And for those of you Sox fans saying that Yankee fans have no class, you are all hypocrites. Jeter was booed in 1999. When they introduced the teams at the beginning of a game at Fenway a couple of years ago after Rivera had blown a couple saves against your team, you all gave him a standing ovation. Come on now. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
bluesfan1022
2008-07-16 16:06:41 UTC
No, Booing players during the line up introductions is one thing, but booing every move that a Red Sox player made, good or bad during the game is so childish. And they were booing Papelbon and threatening his pregnant wife.
(Anonymous)
2008-07-16 15:42:07 UTC
Well Since people were booing Papelbon as overated and threatening him and his wife. No I would not accept the apology that's uncalled for from any team of any fan. Would a yankee fan like it if a red sox threatened rivera's wife or girlfriend? I hope my point was proven. Of course they wouldn't like it so why are they doing it to us.



But if a true yankee fan apologizes on behalf of the immature fans, I would def take the apology.
2008-07-16 15:21:05 UTC
Quicksand and Mary B are perfect examples of the boston fanbase...nothing intelligent to say other then Yankees S*ck...etc etc. Yet another reason why boston fans know nothing about baseball pre 2004.



If this was in fenway and Rivera ran his mouth, boston would be all over him.



Threatening his wife? Talk about overreacting. Papelbon is a 2nd coming of schilling minus the fat stomach.



Boston's hypocricy is seen time in and time out. Here is the most recent example:



Patriot fan - 'everyone cheats'



Red sox fan - 'only the yankees cheat'



It's boston, its pathetic
Put In Scalibrine44
2008-07-16 14:52:32 UTC
I feel that although it is a great rivalry, the Yankee fans showed no class in last nights game. Although I may be biased being a Red Sox fan, but with both sides cheering for the American League and the Red Sox participants were a vital reason why the American League came out on top.
pol_224
2008-07-16 14:41:18 UTC
well, im not sure that yankees fans would apologize to sox fans either, so i dont think boston fans should be demanding an apology by any means. i think j.d. drew got the least boos because he helped the cause to win, and he hasn't shot off his mouth. papelbum on the other hand deserved the boos because thats just something that you dont say, no matter who your are concerning. shut up be modest when you are in front of a camera, otherwise you deserve the media attention that you will get.



so anyways i dont think an apology is necessary because the diehards will never give in. i can imagine some of the fans though would have no problem coming out and apologizing. idk, im a tigers fan so we dont really have rivals like this.
LilyBianca
2008-07-16 15:38:23 UTC
Oh please...



Papelbon made cocky comments about wanting to close the game instead of Mariano prior to the game. After the parade, he put on an obscene shirt and used various profane words no fewer than 12 times in 4 minutes while giving an interview.



Sure, fans booing players might not be the most mature thing to do, but it is quite another thing when it is a PLAYER acting classless and immature.



But that's probably just "Papelbon being Papelbon," right Boston?
BC
2008-07-16 15:18:50 UTC
This is my opinion:



I can say whatever i want and do whatever i want and it wont matter because there is no excuse for the kind of things the yankees fans did. But i dont like how people are lumping the TRUE yankees fans who are actually nice people.



ANYWAY....



It is totally dispicable and unacceptable the way the fans acted yesterday to boo some of the best in the MLB is just arrogant and ignorant and for that i apologize. Booing is SLIGHTLY understandable due to the rivalry but threatening anyones wife or threatening anyone is just horrible behavior and these "so called yankees fans" are just taking it too far.



I apologize on their behalf and i really dont expect anyone to accept because they shouldnt accept.
2008-07-16 14:47:09 UTC
I'm not a fan of both but if that game is played in Fenway, you can't tell me that same sh** doesn't happen there that happened last night so don't sit there and act like Yankee fans need to apologize. With those fans of those teams, it goes both ways. All teams have idiotic fans but that doesn't mean they are all like that.



Most of the Red Sox and Yankee players don't take it even 90% as serious as most fans do. Most of them think it's dumb on how serious fans take it.
2008-07-16 14:42:06 UTC
Yes I would except for the one's who threatened Papelbon's pregnant wife & I wouldn't need an apology for booing Papelbon cause fans can boo who they want to & if game was in Boston, Jeter, A Rod & Mariana would have been booed too. Just the rivalry between the two teams
2008-07-16 15:08:16 UTC
...and the boston fanbase does NOTHING wrong right? How about the fan swinging at sheffield? Papelbon waving the WS ring in the face of New Yorkers. etc... You are telling the yankee fans to bury the hatchet? How about red sox fans chanting 'yankees suck' for all these years and now that the Red sox are winning they feel the need to act like pompus pricks?



Red sox fans deserve the hate they are getting from any fan, not just Yankee fans.



You act like boston people would have class if the game was in boston...you are seriously misled.
2008-07-16 14:41:53 UTC
I'd like to apologize on behalf of Yankees fans. The initial booing when the lineups were announced was immature . If they wanted to boo for one at bat, okay... understandable, but not great. Though, I'm sure the folks at Fenway would do it for Jeter and A-Rod too. After all, there is a rivalry. But what happened with Papelbon and his wife was completely disgusting, and to have the audacity to boo JD Drew after he hit the homerun worthy of the MVP award was completely ridiculous. I was shocked. I'd like to think that we Yankee fans have some more class than that.



Now that the ASG is over and we're no longer on the same team, let the rivalry continue, and boo Papelbum out of New York the next time he dares to show his face on our field. Lay off of the pregnant wife, though.
Logan M
2008-07-16 20:22:17 UTC
You don't need to accept it. Everyone loves to add fuel to the fire in the great rivalry and after Francona being the class act he was (i am glad he was) papelbon should just keep quiet until they play the yankees, then bean one of the yankees to get all the ewwy goowy lovy dovy good feelings out of the way to get back to the greatest rivalry in sports.
Ryan G
2008-07-16 14:36:47 UTC
Now, I'm not a Yankees fan OR a Red Sox fan. I'm actually an Angels fan, but I saw this question and thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.



Why should Yankee fans apologize? This is one of the most heated rivalries in sports, and what they did yesterday made it better. Rivalries in sports are good, and Yankees fans keeping up that rivalry even during the All-Star Game was awesome. Yankee fans don't need to apologize, and to expect them to apologize is simply foolish.
2008-07-16 14:34:20 UTC
well i wouldnt hold it to a single yankee fan. Not all fans were booing the red sox players, and not all of them were yankees fans, though we can assume most were. If a yankee fan apologized on behalf of all yankees fans i would say yeah sure, because its not his fault.



But i think you can assume that if the game was at fenway, every yankee fan would be boo'd, dont even argue with that because its true.
gosox43
2008-07-16 14:56:24 UTC
Papelbon did not say anything mean, It is up to Francona to decide who closes, and it didnt even matter. Boston fans have more respect towards the game then Yankee fans. Boston fans root for the American League to win and would cheer Jeter if he hit a walk off, I know I would and Im a die hard Sox fan. Boston fans would never throw stuff at a pregnant players wife. Be thankful J.D. Drew won it for the A.L.
2008-07-16 14:37:55 UTC
If I were A Sox fan I woulnd't because it's ONE game and you make a great point. I've seen camera's showing Jeter and Manny hugging and that shows that a rivalry can be put aisde for a little fun and Yankees fans were be stupid.
Greta
2008-07-16 14:37:29 UTC
If it were a Yankee fan from the game last night who was chanting "overrated", booing Papelbon and threatening his wife, I wouldn't accept their apology. They were acting flat out obnoxious and disrespectful. They obviously felt passionately enough to do what they did, so I doubt their apology would be sincere.



But if it was a Yankee fan apologizing on the behalf of those fans, sure, I'd accept it.
2008-07-16 14:44:49 UTC
An apology?



C'mon, maybe it was a little immature, but do Red Sox fans have any right to be upset about it?



The Yankees would've gotten the same reaction at Fenway, this rivalry is too bitter.
2008-07-16 15:38:20 UTC
As i would no doubt about it. And if i did i am sure you would accpet the red sox fan apoolgoy as well?



You know its going to be insterting to see what happens july 25th

7:05pm



LilyBian-cocky comment? so if you play softball and you can save your team from a all star game and you had another closer.



Would you say you didnt want to close? how is calling mo a godfather cocky? please explain...
2008-07-16 14:57:21 UTC
They could appologize but i believe that this is the way they must respond to the new millenium. They see that the sox will be stomping there franchise to the ground for many years to come. I dont even care that they think little of the players of the team with two world series' since the the last time they won a world series.



ReDsOx NaTiOn RuLeS!!!!
2008-07-16 14:41:42 UTC
We cheered when J.D. Drew -- who was contemptible well before he ever put on a Boston uniform -- hit a home run to tie the game.



We'll apologize to the Red Sox fans when Red Sox pitchers from Dick Drago in the Seventies to Josh Beckett recently, especially Pedro Martinez, apologize to all the Yankees they've hit on purpose. To say nothing of Pedro's felonious assault on Don Zimmer in the 2003 Playoffs.
Coach McGuirk
2008-07-16 14:34:54 UTC
I wouldn't accept an apology as I don't feel an apology is necessary.



I have plenty of friends who are Yankee fans and I love the rivalry.
2008-07-16 14:34:10 UTC
i know what you are sayingg, but also you have too ask...



would you do that at Fenway is A-rod got annoced?



but, i sposse it goes both wayss...



but, no i dont think i would no matter what. I'm a die heart red sox fan!!
2008-07-16 19:03:45 UTC
y would they need to appologize to you red sox fans anyway
murph
2008-07-16 16:58:15 UTC
yankee fans are dirt-balls and would you expect anything other than that last night from new yorkers?
redsoxpatriotsfan14
2008-07-16 14:38:31 UTC
No, I dont except appologies from Yankees fans for what they did last night. I think this rivalry is too strong to accept an appology, and I think the New Yorkers lack of class needs to be shown to everyone through their own actions, instead of letting them cover it up with an apology.
Help me
2008-07-16 19:28:24 UTC
Yes were the better people
Janet ♥(YFFL)
2008-07-16 14:36:13 UTC
Okay , as a Yankee Fan i say we should both sides just move on with this thing, because were not getting NO WERE with this



and I'm not going to apologize because i dint do anything wrong

Edit- i get a thumbs down fro saying I'm to going to apologize for what i dint say anything simple as that
2008-07-16 15:51:18 UTC
Well they are already rivals...but I do think that is very retarded.
2008-07-16 16:05:42 UTC
yes, because that would be the mature thing to do
2008-07-16 14:58:56 UTC
Yes. You always have to be the better person.
JT-24
2008-07-16 14:40:44 UTC
I second what Greta said...couldn't have said it better myself.
Ben
2008-07-16 14:54:59 UTC
yes i would but they're too proud to apoligize
2008-07-16 14:47:46 UTC
baseball is boring.


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